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Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« on: May 31, 2007, 04:45:30 PM »
Dear Forum Members,

The Australian International Animation Festival has long passed and may be a distant memory, but could we please revisit if for a few vital minutes for the sake of future events. As you would already be aware a huge debt of gratitude has gone towards all the people who made this momentous event possible and I honestly believe the festival is always a tremendous achievement that we can only hope to improve upon every year.

To be fair though, the numbers had declined this year and the festival was not a profitable venture. Instead of receiving acclaim, I’ve taken reasonable criticism for its lack of commercial success and now find myself having to justify whether Charles Sturt University should be affiliated with the event; should it actually return. Obviously this has had a demoralising effect but I’d like to think the festival has far greater value than the ticket sales suggest.

To be precise I have been asked to “give reasons for the School to support this venture next year.”

I know that there is already a similar thread titled Post-Animation Festival but I would greatly appreciate hearing the candid opinions from those who did or did not attend the festival to answer this. I’ll include these comments in my response to the university so it’s really important that you add your view now.

Thanks in advance,
Andrew. ;D

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 05:32:53 PM »
Having CSU support the "Australian International Animation Festival" makes perfect sense. As we are the only university providing a dedicated course in animation and special effects, it would be crazy if we were to lose this event to any other institution. It wouldn't mean we simply lose the show we would also lose the credibility of being a leading school in animation and visual effects. As Australia is becoming more and more recognized as a serious contender in the animation world, i feel that by having CSU and Wagga at the center of it all would be so beneficial to help get CSU's name on a world scale. I belive its short sighted to take poor ticket sales from theh Wagga show to be used as the gauge for "success". As the general public want to see the next Happy feet" not some unknown animation. This festival is a great "success" to all the animation and multimedia students. As i see it in the long term the University will gain so much more from this event apart from ticket sales. As we all know from litlle things, big things grow.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 05:54:19 PM »
Although there wasnt much support from the general Wagga public, i dont think that any student from CSU should miss out on this opportunity, because as stated previously we are the only university running 'animation and visual effects' as a full time course. And although there wasnt much support from the Wagga public this year, that doesnt mean that there wont be next year!
A group of us gathered down the main streets of Wagga, handing out pamphlets to passing people. My assumption is that we did that maybe a little too late. We should publisize it a little bit more, have it on the radio, on the tv and try to attract as much attention to this festival as possible.
It was a great success to all those whom attended and it would be the greatest shame for us to miss out on this prestigous festival in years to come.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 07:38:34 PM »
The animation festival was a success for everyone who attended; very few who were there would contest that. It offered us students and the wider Wagga Wagga public a chance to experience the best of the whole world's animation; an opportunity that is virtually unknown in rural Australia.
I haven't spoken with a single person who attended the animation festival and did not enjoy it. While promotion such as posters may have come somewhat late, with only around a week to promote it, the festival will enjoy far greater promotion in the coming year due to the knowledge and enthusiasm of the people who did attend and enjoy the festival this year.
It was an opportunity not to be missed, and it's sad that some people decided to ignore it, but it's something that a mass of students at CSU in its Animation and similar Arts courses will look forward to in coming years, should we get the chance.

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 10:12:21 PM »
Because i have lived in Wagga for that past 15 years i know a lot of locals and to be honest. A lot only found out about the festival a couple of days before and could not attend because of short notice.

A lot of them said "damn next year i'll be ready". So i hope there is a next year. A major factor in it's commercial failure was its late advertisment and awareness, not the lack of cultural significance in wagga. There is a large audience in wagga, next time we just have to let them know about it at least a month in advance, and coupled with this year, the presence of this festival will truely be felt.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 12:01:20 AM »
Im not sure my opinion matters much since I will no longer be here next year ( unless I fail something, god forbid )
As has been mentioned previously, but is no ones fault, the whole advertising dealy is an issue, but then again alot of uni students themselves are tightarses whether because they need to be or they are very frugle (sp?) and I don't know how many people in wagga themselves ( being of rather country-ish background ) that aren't affiliated with something artistic would attend. One of the better bets would probably have been hosting a few sessions during the week or some such and try and con the local schools into making field trips for the event and everything.
I would love for the animation festival to continue here but with apathy seemingly running abroad EVEN in the animation course I'd find it a bit disheartening fighting for it as much as you do hages. The only thing I can suggest is maybe do the animation festival at the begging of a term further away from looming exams and assignments and the like.
The forum 6 was brilliant to have and it lends a bit of professionalism to the whole event.
I tried to lure my housemates into the festival and some where genuinely interested but due to it being last minute they declined and I only managed to drag one along for a $10 session ( they then had to spend the rest of the weeken doing an assignment )

One of my saddest comments is that I could not stay for the after session times due to my relying on others to get a lift in and out of uni, would it be at all possible for the animation festival to be ON campus? I mean we've had it screened on cheaper equipment than the uni could provide. HELL, throw the whole animation festival into the CROW bar, friday night unwind, people would be more informed that its there, and you'd prolly get a bigger student audience. Not sure how many townies would come out, tho Im sure sue would prolly corral a few in singlehandedly :D

I honestly hope that wagga can keep the animation festival, but then that seems to mainly rest on you hages, so... ultimately the decision is yours...
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 02:58:16 PM »
Obviously the University is really asking, 'Justify us spending money on this'...

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The AIAF is in many fundamental ways a neccesary event in the catalogue of cultural events supported by the University. In todays competitive environment this event re-inforces both the staff and students dedication to their specific proffesional practices.

Primarily the event forces dialogue between the University, the School, and particularly the Animation and VFX degree with the wider community. It offers an opportunity to the greater viewership a cultural phenomenon that they would otherwise be unable to have ready access to. This means that the school is creating and mainting its relationship as an integral part of the local community and is integrating itself with its environs. This is one event where the school can present itself and represent itself and its staff as knowledgable, hardworking and extremely dedicated and is a fantastic opportunity to initiate conversation between past, present and future students. The school in order to maintain its position and to expand upon its position in and around the region must involve itself with the region and this is one fantastic opportunity to do so.

Above and beyond this the festival creates a unity amongst peers of the school across varying degrees by offering a plethora of options to those of differing taste. There is students coming across multiple degrees and multiple years and this event forges relationships within the school that may not otherwise be so easily created. Therefore it offers not only the opportunity to engage with the wider community, but the opportunity to create a community in and within itself. A space to harbor and entice creativity.

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2007, 03:20:33 PM »
From my view it has been a great experience to see what happens in the world of animation here in Wagga, especially for students who are now specialising in a career towards being animators themselves. It is a shame that more people dont attend, though i think those that do go, get alot of value out of it as well as enjoy the screenings.

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 05:05:07 PM »
even though i was unable to make it to the festival for family reasons, i can see that the festival benefited the CSU students and brings great opportunities for networking right to our doorstep! Im insanely jealous of the people who attended and would hate for the festival to be somewhere else next year. the festival promotes the uni, the town and the gives the students inspiration from what they viewed and who they were taught by.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2007, 05:38:12 PM »
Being in such a geographically isolated place as Wagga Wagga also entails a certain distancing from the seminal events that occur in the capital cities and industrial centres of Australia, and more specifically, Sydney and Melbourne. An event like the AIAF is integral in bringing culturally diverse material into the community and is most definitely an important aspect in educating not only students of the School of Visual and Performing Arts, or even students from CSU, but also the wider population.

From a non-local's perspective, the festival provides exposure to many views that allow for the potential broadening of knowledge and ideals.  There doesn't seem to be any other event quite like it where one is not only left to view and absorb, but also to actively participate through encouraged Q&A sessions and workshops.  The AIAF's position in Wagga is a demonstration of the enormous amount of dedication given to animation by the students and staff of CSU, and through continued development of the event itself and the strengthening of links with the community, its position is justified.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2007, 06:35:14 PM »
So here lies the question, should CSU host the Australian international animation festival.
Apart from the fact that this highly regarded and sort after event is an enormous opportunity to see the best of the best that the world has to offer, this event is a cultural, social, and artistic learning curb for all people who indulge in it.

Charles Sturt University is one of the finest, and holds high respect in many fields. A majority of the reason why people come from far and wide to study at this fine institution is because of its accolades in the fields it teaches. And for every student that CSU enrols the more funds that lends to making the university the best it can possibly be.

It has been said that Charles Sturt University did not make any money from hosting this event, and that is because they are looking at it the wrong way. Yes there may have been lower ticket sales than usual but, look at how much money in advertising the university has saved by exclusively holding this event.
For starters just the fact that CSU's name was across almost every news media across NSW about this event is extraordinary, but imagine how many people this alerts about our courses here at Charles Sturt like the multimedia and animation degree's, the fact that we hold this great attribute to world animation in the palm of our hands over many other "high class" arts universities, and the amount of talent scouts that will be sent our way to search for artists that hold this world wide event.

The possibilities are endless and if Charles Sturt University wants to step up from being one of the best universities, to the leading university for both visual arts and digital media alike then this definantly is the best way to go about it. We can only head up from here.


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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 01:43:38 PM »
I think that the festival was great and i believe that CSU should continue to support it because, it is good for us animation student's to be exposed to the variety that available for us in our chosen medium. And it also shows us the kind of things that we can aspire to achieve in the future.
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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2007, 12:02:02 PM »
I think we should definitely have this event again as it was great to be exposed to so many brilliant animations (and a few not so brilliant) from all over the world, and it may not have been a success in terms of tickets sales but it obviously was valuable to all the students who attended as it is an important event to keep wagga involved in the wider animation and visual effects scene also everyone I've talked did really enjoy the event.

Thumbs up to AIAF 2008

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2007, 11:09:59 PM »
Definately keep it coming to Wagga. Being exposed to animations from students like us from the other side of the world is an awesome opportunity and also a learning experience because it broadens our knowledge of animation and also inspires us to reach some of the levels the people that entered have achieved. Just because our univeristy is kinda isolated, doesnt mean we shouldnt get to see things that the city universities (with crappier courses) get too see.
I think it was a really good weekend and I hope ill get to see it again in wagga.

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Re: Australian International Animation Festival 2008 or not?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2007, 11:26:16 AM »
It is my opinion that such an event is necessary in order to expose students to the greater span of that which other schools and the industry has to offer. The AIAF has provided us with a very unique opportunity over the years which has been fundamental in our learning not just about animation, but the what lies waiting for us in the wide world.

Speakers have come and spoken about their works, which is great in itself, but they also talk about their experiences, and what we are most likely to encounter in terms of problems etc in the industry, this is one of the most important factors of the festival's continuance.

The other is most obviously the exposure. Where else in Australia could we see such a range of animations?? Sure we could make the effort to go to the Melbourne festival, but that is not feasible on most Uni budgets. So having this festival in Wagga provides us with an affordable and accessible alternative. Sure we may be 'isolated' as far as the rest of the animation world may be concerned, but we offer the only specialist course in Australia and Hages is the only certified Alias Instructor in Aus. that helps in letting everyone know that we're here, but the festival is an opportunity for us to show that we actually care.

No one that went could say that the students presence wasnt felt, and even those students that couldnt make it made an effort to advertise the event, so i'm pretty sure that speaks for itself.
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