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Title: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 23, 2007, 10:23:08 PM
I read reviews about this full case being larger than description. Even after knowing the dimentions it still antonished me when it arrived today.

I am building a pc from stracth and first stop is the case. After some research i decided on the Lian Li pc-201, which is all aluminium. After i pay that off (in 3 weeks) i have to decide whether to build a gaming pc or workstation.

Either way, here is the behemoth in my room.

(http://csusap.csu.edu.au/~khulme04/images/forum/Lian%20Li%20Case%20005.JPG)

As you can see here, i have a gamecube on the second shelf of a bookshelf as reference.
And also the Animators Hand book plus a bin standing next to it.

 :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Pamz0r on May 23, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
firstly, yay! gamecube!
i actuallly looked at my game cube to get an idea of teh size of this thing... and holy crap...its quite montrous isnt it? lol.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 23, 2007, 10:29:30 PM
My dog could live inside it.
And yes, yay gamecube! Yay for super smash brothers and resident evil and super paper mario!
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Atcote on May 23, 2007, 10:45:30 PM
Hehe, all games I own and enjoy (long live the Gamecube... albeit on the Wii).
Anyway, my eyes have been feasting upon that case ravishingly, and I'm still amazed at its size. I thought my case was big, but God-dammit! How many DVD slots does it have?
Can you give us a front and side perspective shot of it as well, just out of curiosity?
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Pamz0r on May 23, 2007, 10:49:30 PM
front and side veiw would be good, OR is it that it is too big to fit in the shot? lol
your dog could live in it? LOL what breed is ur dog?
(yay! Super Smash Bros.!!..which is infact the only gave we have for our gamecube lol.)
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: UNGCO on May 23, 2007, 10:52:35 PM
Hate to interrupt the flow of Nintendo Gamecube worship, but my god is that case gigantic! Are those little details on the top of the case buttons and LEDs? (Eledees!)
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 23, 2007, 11:01:11 PM
OK OK, i'll give shots of front and side.

But right now i can tell you that it has room for:

12 HDD's
7DVD drives
2 power supplies
ATX or even an E-Atx board
room for 2 graphics cards.

Oh and those things on the top are usb/firewire ports
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Atcote on May 23, 2007, 11:06:37 PM
... Dear God.
Okay, that, that right there? That's NOT a student case. That's not even a professional case. That's the case that almighty God sits down at his computer, inbetween being sent emails asking 'How do you type with boxing gloves on?' and LUSTS after being able to utilize!
How much of that room do you plan to take advantage of? Please post your computer specs up here when you make it (and now's the point you BELIEVE in the advantages of a custom job...).
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Pamz0r on May 23, 2007, 11:11:49 PM
oh dear oh dear!
ur going to make me cry! *druels instead*
may i enquire as to how much you paid for this case?
*waits for side and front veiw pics*
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 23, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
More pix: (hey, i think i deserve a round of applauds)[for the biggest computer that doesn't do anything -... yet]
(http://csusap.csu.edu.au/~khulme04/images/forum/Lian%20Li%20Case%20010.JPG)
(http://csusap.csu.edu.au/~khulme04/images/forum/Lian%20Li%20Case%20012.JPG)
(http://csusap.csu.edu.au/~khulme04/images/forum/Lian%20Li%20Case%20013.JPG)
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Pamz0r on May 23, 2007, 11:24:15 PM
your dog could live in it? Our whole vfx class could live in it! haha!! well, maybe thats taking it a little too far, but seriously dude, its a monster!!!
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 23, 2007, 11:25:58 PM
Ok, from now on, lectures are held.. inside my computer case. :D
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Ammon on May 23, 2007, 11:38:53 PM
dear god that case is huge!! i want that case...
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Jabba_Wocky on May 24, 2007, 02:00:33 PM
looks more suited of being a beastly server/workstation case to me. and i thought my case was big. bugger me you should put 2 computers in that thing. hope you picked it up cheap, $400 the cheapest i'm seeing it. OUCH! please tell me it has a at least a 400watt power supply. then again, all other decent branded cases cost this much. i wouldn't like to lug it around to lans though.

but i guess you can use this case in the future if you decide to got all out on a workstation.

Coolermaster Ammo 533 (http://www.skycomp.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=159_185&products_id=7139&osCsid=1138714c441a0921873ce39bdf22bf9f)
Coolermaster Praetorian 732 (http://www.skycomp.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=159_185&products_id=45440&osCsid=1138714c441a0921873ce39bdf22bf9f)
Antec Atlas (http://www.skycomp.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=159_215&products_id=13496&osCsid=1138714c441a0921873ce39bdf22bf9f)

then again these cases are just cheaper alternatives.

this is what i have (http://thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/fulltower/shark/va7000bwa.asp)
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 24, 2007, 04:21:48 PM
Well yea, it is a lifetime investment, the way i see it, if i ever need to upgrade my pc, i will always keep this case.
It's the rolls royce of cases. I can go with 2 power supplies in this, and am thinking it may be a better option to have two lower power supplies and link them together because the heat dispersion may be less that say, one 1000watt psu.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Jabba_Wocky on May 24, 2007, 04:28:04 PM
do you really a need 1000watts of power? be sure to get the microwave mod for the case so you can cook pies and stuff while you work :D
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 24, 2007, 04:34:13 PM
If i have two GPU's in crossfire mode. Considering the ATI HD2900xt uses 200W power alone, i think i'll need 1000.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: MultimediaMan on May 26, 2007, 03:54:01 AM
wow.. can you say inefficient? you wont need 1000 watts, i have 2 7900gtx's running and they only need 300 odd between them.. be sure you use a watt calculator before you spend an insane amount of money on power you dont need.


+ i think its only slightly bigger than mine.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Jeebuz on May 29, 2007, 11:46:24 AM
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+ i think its only slightly bigger than mine.

Oh no! The competition starts! Next you will be revving your cases at the lights waiting for them to go green so you can scream down the road and get charged with copyright infringment from the makers of Back to the Future! Oh dear lord, when will the madness end?!?!
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 29, 2007, 05:38:39 PM
LOL, Case wars, how nerdy.

I am waiting for someone to say 'it's not the SIZE that matters, but how you use it'.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: MultimediaMan on May 29, 2007, 06:09:15 PM
"I am your PSU, Search your HDD slots, you know its true"
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Keaton on May 29, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
I have more slots to put stuff in.
It's loose and there's a lot of room.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Ammon on May 31, 2007, 12:30:51 AM
I have more slots to put stuff in.
It's loose and there's a lot of room.


now that can be taken out of context waaaay to easy
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: DjDan on June 09, 2007, 11:05:41 PM
do you really a need 1000watts of power? be sure to get the microwave mod for the case so you can cook pies and stuff while you work :D

I agree!

Well at least you can have lots of space for the equipment in there. Yes it may be thought 1000watts is overkill, BUT not really. Yes meters may say 300watts but that is only average running, when you get some processes running, the thing will very likly be peaking at double that. Like when you turn a 100watt light bulb on, you have a surge current of about 200watts. By having an excess on the powersupply means that they wont be running anywhere near capactiy, will last longer and run much cooler (obviously it will still be like a 300watt heater). Choppers are very good powersupplies as compared to transformers because of their high effeciency.

Obviously budget is a factor.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Jabba_Wocky on June 10, 2007, 01:49:42 AM
im more concerned about the noise those huge fans would be making. haha, get the liquid cooling to somehow run through your PSU. be sure to read the danger sticker on the PSU cooling kit.

"WARNING MAY F*** UP YOUR PSU WHEN TURNED ON"  :D
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: DjDan on June 10, 2007, 01:02:45 PM
im more concerned about the noise those huge fans would be making. haha, get the liquid cooling to somehow run through your PSU. be sure to read the danger sticker on the PSU cooling kit.

"WARNING MAY F*** UP YOUR PSU WHEN TURNED ON"  :D

Haha, yeah like that :
"WARNING MAY F*** UP YOUR PSU WHEN TURNED ON"  :D

Although bigger fans can be run slower, therfore make very little noise.

You could fit about 100 mac mini's into this tower!
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: MultimediaMan on June 10, 2007, 09:16:42 PM


I agree!

Well at least you can have lots of space for the equipment in there. Yes it may be thought 1000watts is overkill, BUT not really. Yes meters may say 300watts but that is only average running, when you get some processes running, the thing will very likly be peaking at double that. Like when you turn a 100watt light bulb on, you have a surge current of about 200watts. By having an excess on the powersupply means that they wont be running anywhere near capactiy, will last longer and run much cooler (obviously it will still be like a 300watt heater). Choppers are very good powersupplies as compared to transformers because of their high effeciency.

the thing is, if you are basing your purchase of a powersupply off the 'average' running, then you at the word go are going to encounter problems, the PSU and the tower should be the last thing you buy for several reasons.

for instance you don't want to spend more money than you have to, you can usually get a rough estimate of what sort of PSu you need to run your computer by determining the peak wattage each card/device pulls under load, give that total a margin of error of about 100 watts and you might end up only needing a 700 watt power supply. Remember, because you have 1000 watts doesnt mean it will all be used. if a 1000watt power supply has 4 'rails', each you would assume only allows 250 watts and wont pull anymore than that or any less. sorry to say bu the light bulb analogy really doesn't fit.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: Luke on June 13, 2007, 03:04:07 AM
well yeh   orrrr   instead of spending 300   u can do the smart thing

and buy a 50 dollar case off ebay   for about the same size  and allow 50 dollars for cooling
like this one for example
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-ATX-COMPUTER-PC-CASE-LCD-TEMP-TIME-FAN-DIS-LED-FAN_W0QQitemZ250129289929QQihZ015QQcategoryZ80168QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
this may got for 50  and postage 50

then we have 200 to spare for water cooling 
which is here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Thermaltake-Big-Water-745-Liquid-Cooling-System_W0QQitemZ290125960316QQihZ019QQcategoryZ80150QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

thats about 300 dollar   u need to take the case off for performance reasons anyway for cooling, so make sure the case isnt a noob case and opens gay like.

But like normal   i told Keaton this...  but im used to people not listening to me     

well they look at my computer   lol  and i dont blame them...
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: DjDan on June 15, 2007, 11:41:21 AM


I agree!

Well at least you can have lots of space for the equipment in there. Yes it may be thought 1000watts is overkill, BUT not really. Yes meters may say 300watts but that is only average running, when you get some processes running, the thing will very likly be peaking at double that. Like when you turn a 100watt light bulb on, you have a surge current of about 200watts. By having an excess on the powersupply means that they wont be running anywhere near capactiy, will last longer and run much cooler (obviously it will still be like a 300watt heater). Choppers are very good powersupplies as compared to transformers because of their high effeciency.

the thing is, if you are basing your purchase of a powersupply off the 'average' running, then you at the word go are going to encounter problems, the PSU and the tower should be the last thing you buy for several reasons.

for instance you don't want to spend more money than you have to, you can usually get a rough estimate of what sort of PSu you need to run your computer by determining the peak wattage each card/device pulls under load, give that total a margin of error of about 100 watts and you might end up only needing a 700 watt power supply. Remember, because you have 1000 watts doesnt mean it will all be used. if a 1000watt power supply has 4 'rails', each you would assume only allows 250 watts and wont pull anymore than that or any less. sorry to say bu the light bulb analogy really doesn't fit.

Let me correct some things here. First thing you learn at tech, Everything has a surge current of about double its full power. So you are saying
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total a margin of error of about 100 watts
is misleading and incorrect and is only a fact you have made up.

Ok, fine, buy a 700watt chopper it doesnt matter. I dont beleive I said you would use 1000watts anywhere in my post, fact of the matter is, in Any industry, it is a known fact that if (in related to this example) you have the 1000watt power supply, you will never be drawing close to its full potential, and hence will get a much longer life out of the unit, hence for the remark
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Choppers are very good powersupplies as compared to transformers because of their high effeciency.

Lightglobes are a very simple analogy that people can relate to. Or what about speakers. You have some speakers with a program running of 1000watts, you should only use an amp double. Thats just one of many examples and can be found on all good speaker producer companies such as electro voice, meyer, jbl.

A powersupply reading does come from all the rails added up together yes, but they are in no way evenly rated. The 5volt rail is normally some rediculous amount of amps and the 12volt rail normally not as much. A lot of the figures on the supplies too are overated for what they can actually produce.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: MultimediaMan on June 15, 2007, 12:54:00 PM
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total a margin of error of about 100 watts
is misleading and incorrect and is only a fact you have made up.

When calculating the PSU you need for your computer using a Calculator of ANY sort, you don't take it for face value, you add atleast another 100 watts on top of that calculation. Because these programs are inaccurate. First and foremost this is what i was taught when i built my first machine and it hasn't failed me yet and my computer is running at peak efficiency. Who told me this you wonder, my older brother, the reason i take his word as pretty much scripture in this case is because he does this s*** for a living.

and i never SAID you were buying a 1000watt PSU, i was merely pointing out Keaton buying one would be a waste.
Title: Re: FEAST your eyes on this beast
Post by: DjDan on June 15, 2007, 08:54:20 PM
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total a margin of error of about 100 watts
is misleading and incorrect and is only a fact you have made up.

When calculating the PSU you need for your computer using a Calculator of ANY sort, you don't take it for face value, you add atleast another 100 watts on top of that calculation. Because these programs are inaccurate. First and foremost this is what i was taught when i built my first machine and it hasn't failed me yet and my computer is running at peak efficiency. Who told me this you wonder, my older brother, the reason i take his word as pretty much scripture in this case is because he does this s*** for a living.

and i never SAID you were buying a 1000watt PSU, i was merely pointing out Keaton buying one would be a waste.

True, ill go with that. If it works in practice thats good, and yeah it will save Keaton the money. I just know in theory it is double.